Sunday, January 29, 2012

What to do when credit card collectors harass you

What to do when credit card collectors harass you

Monday, 02 May 2011 11:05 Lifestyle -

By Dolly Palisada

YOU are a credit card defaulter. Your credit card debt has blown out of proportion. The amount is so huge you can no longer pay it in full. A few months after, a credit card collector comes knocking at your door, harassing you, threatening to sue you or try pulling out your properties to settle your account.

In the Philippines, you hear horror stories of harassment and intimidation by credit card collectors. To equip yourself with basic information of your rights, here are several useful pointers that you may use in a likely scenario:

1. You have the right to ask the debt collector a copy of your Statement of Account (SOA) duly signed by the bank. A demand letter or an offer letter showing a discounted rate of your debt is not your SOA. If they provide you an SOA, make sure to verify it with the bank for its authenticity. Make your request clear or adopt a mantra: No SOA, No Pay.

2. You have the right to decide on how much you can afford to pay your debt. Do this by sending a proposal letter through email or the post office for your proposed mode of repayment and it should be according to your financial capacity.

3. Once you confirm agreement, it should be officially written (never a verbal one). A written proof is what you need in case they deny your payments.

4. In case of disagreement in the proposal, then don’t pay. Challenge the collecting agency to pursue the case in court where it is handled properly. It should be noted that credit card debt, done in good faith (such as bankruptcy, unemployment, etc) is not a criminal act but a simple case of breach of contract therefore constitute a civil case. Credit card debt eventually turns into criminal act at the issuance of bouncing checks (estafa) or was stolen and used by another person.

5. In some cases, collecting agencies may use police presence as shock factor to knock at your door: will dangle a piece of paper in your face as “warrant of arrest” but will not allow you to read it. These are one of the many ploys to pressure you out of your wits to pay your debt. Don’t panic. Instead, get their names, their precinct and their car’s plate number. You may also take a picture of their faces through your phone camera or press start a video. Again, be wary that this is not the job of policemen, barangay captains or kagawads. File a complaint or case against them for abuse of authority if they keep on harassing you.
6. Credit card collection agencies will use guises and disguises for the sole purpose of collecting money from you. Commonly used are “LBC uniformed men” to enter your home by announcing a package delivery. Once you allow them to enter the house, they will reveal their true identity and will try by all means to purge money from you or pull-out appliances at your house to swap for your debt. At times they will claim to be the sheriff of the court and extort money from you. Be vigilant and tell them to go or you file a criminal case against them for trespassing, extortion or unjust vexation.

7. Some initial pressures used by credit card collectors are in the form of text messages or persistent calls. Messages may say you have a pending warrant of arrest or will contain details of court case number, name of the judge, branch of court and time of hearing. The purpose of this is to sow panic and fear. However, a text message containing information of an impending warrant of arrest is a give away. A proper court will not issue such nonsense. Warrant of arrest is for criminal cases and credit card debt is a civil issue. It should be noted that warrant of arrests are personally delivered by court authorities by surprise and not over the phone or texts messages, fax or email messages.

8. What is RA 8484? Most often, this republic act is used by collecting agents to intimidate defaulters. In essence, Republic Act 8484 is also known as the Access Devices Regulation Act of 1998. In layman’s language, an access device means any card, plate, code, account number, electronic serial number, personal identification number and other telecommunication services, equipment or instrumentalities-identifier or other means of account access that can be used to obtain money, goods, services or any other thing of value to initiate a transfer of funds. RA 8484 is also applicable to person/persons who applied for a credit card using fake identity/identities which is classified as a fraudulent act and has nothing to do with your credit card debt or non-payment of debt.

9. Having said all that, it is worth mentioning as well that credit card defaulters can still travel abroad. Do not believe if collectors will threaten to file a hold departure order against you because it’s merely a bluff. For those getting an NBI clearance for work or other purposes, don’t believe in hearsay that you cannot get your clearance despite your standing debt. Take note that NBI records reveal criminal cases only and not civil cases.

Are credit card debt collectors telling lies? Yes. It’s their modus operandi to put pressure on the defaulter to collect money. We know they are only doing their jobs but a defaulter has rights as well to protect themselves from such harassments. Collecting agencies are paid for by the banks to collect debts. For as long as you’re not running away from your responsibilities, or you’re not in hiding, then move on with life and learn a great deal from the experience.

Saturday, January 28, 2012


Function 1. Monitors, investigates and prosecutes all crime involving economic sabotage like:
bank frauds large scale smuggling, estafa, dollar salting, hoarding, profiteering and other crimes
of such magnitude and extent as to indicate their commission by highly placed or Professional syndicates and 


Saturday, January 14, 2012


These are the oft-repeated lines of collectors:
the Interpol will be hunting you.


It is the world’s largest international police organization.
Created in 1923.
it facilitates police whose mission is:
"to prevent or combat international crime"

aren't you flattered when collector says
"You are a big time criminal - worldwide pa!"

Saturday, January 7, 2012

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Sunday, January 1, 2012

Debt and Living beyond Our Means

By: Socred, B.A., SCMP

It is often said by supposed financial experts that the reason there is so much debt, both public and private, is that we are “living beyond our means”. Their argument is that if we all just “tightened our belts” and consumed a little less, then we would not be in this financial mess. On the surface, this argument seems to make sense. We all know that we have a certain household income and if we spend more than our household income, then we must go into debt in order to do so. If we continue to spend more than we earn, eventually the debt will become too large to pay off and we will have to default on our debts.

Does this argument hold true for the economy as a whole? If all agents in the economy balanced their budgets, would we be in a better situation? Let’s explore what it really means to “live beyond our means”, and the possibility of balancing all budgets in an economy.

First we must eliminate money from our analysis, because money is just (or should be) a symbolic representation of the ability to consume and produce. The purpose of any economy is consumption, and this is only limited by our ability to produce. Finance should merely be a mathematical representation of these activities.
Production not meant for consumption is waste. In other words, the purpose of production is not to provide work, but to provide goods and services to consumers with the least amount of effort. This may seem to be common sense, but when we add money back into our analysis, common sense seems to leave most people, including supposed financial experts.

Now, without a doubt, it is possible for any individual agent to “live beyond their means”. What this means in real terms is that someone consumes more than they produce. However, if one individual consumes more than they produce, another must consume less than they produce (you cannot consume what has not been produced). The second agent is engaging in “savings” in real terms. Of course, the second agent would only consume less than he produced if there were some incentive to do so, and this is why the first must pay back the amount of goods and services “borrowed” from the second with “interest”. However, consumer goods only have a limited shelf life. They depreciate over time. Therefore, savings in this form does not exist in the macro-economy because goods and services cannot be “saved” for any length of time in order to be consumed at a later date.

The ability to "live beyond our means" seems to make sense from a micro-economic point of view involving individual economic agents, but from a macro-economic point of view it is completely absurd. Is it possible for an entire economy to “live beyond its means”? Momentarily excluding foreign trade - any economy produces a certain amount of goods and services, let’s call that quantity X. Is it possible for all of the agents in that economy to consume X plus a certain amount more (A)? If the economy produces X, is it possible to consume X+A? Clearly this is impossible! You cannot consume something that does not exist. A has not been produced, so you cannot consume it. For the economy as a whole, it is impossible to “live beyond our means”. Consequently, the “financial experts” advice, which applies to individual economic agents, does not apply to the economy as a whole. If we all consumed less, this would mean that more and more production would be waste, because consumer goods have a limited shelf life, and cannot be saved in order to be consumed at a later date.

Hold on, some will argue, you have exluded foreign trade from your analysis. With foreign trade, it is possible for one country “to live beyond its means” by importing more than it exports in goods and services. So it is possible for individual nations to “live beyond their means”. This is true. However, all countries are attempting to pursue a favorable balance of trade simultaneously. A favorable balance of trade means that a country wants to export more than they import. In real terms, this means that all countries are trying to give more goods and services away to other countries than they receive from those countries in return. From a macro-economic perspective, the country that exports more than it imports engages in “savings”, and the country that imports more than it exports is “living beyond its means”. Nations are individual economic agents in this analysis, and the macro-economy is the world economy. As we discussed previously, this type of savings is not real, because consumer goods have a very limited shelf life. Further, it is impossible for all countries in the world to consume less than they produce without a huge amount of waste. Thus, we need to understand why all countries pursue a favorable balance of trade.

The main reason why a favorable balance of trade is pursued by all countries is that it leads to economic growth in terms of GDP accounting. China is a prime example of how this policy leads to this type of growth. China had a balance of trade surplus of 14.5 billion dollars in November of 2011, and its economic growth was 9.1% in terms of year over year increases in GDP. Exports represent almost 40% of their GDP, yet the Chinese people themselves have a GDP per capita of less than $6,000 per annum in U.S. dollars. Their balance of trade surplus represents approximately 3% of their GDP. (source: trading economics). In other words, the Chinese live in relative poverty in order to give away 3% of the goods and services they produce so that they can pursue a policy of a favorable balance of trade in order to have economic growth. What causes this seeming paradox? Why would the Chinese give away 3% of their GDP to other nations while their citizens live in poverty?

This paradox is the result of confusion in regards to the purpose of the economy. The real purpose of the economy should be to provide goods and services to consumers. It does not exist to provide employment. It is true that a certain amount of employment is necessary to provide goods and services, but the less amount of employment required to provide goods and services, the better off we are. This is the whole purpose of science and technology. Advances in technology reduce the amount of labour necessary to produce goods and services. If we adhere to the belief that the economy exists to provide employment, then we will account for a favourable balance of trade as an increase in prosperity because it provides employment to those who are producing the goods and services. This is exactly how GDP accounting accounts for a favourable balance of trade. In other words, the purpose of an economy, according to the way we account for economic prosperity currently (GDP accounting), is to provide employment .

There is nothing wrong with foreign trade so long as the purpose of that trade is to give one country something in return for something else. However, there is a problem with foreign trade when the objective is to give away more than you receive back. This policy of a favourable balance of trade inevitably leads to a trade war between nations, which often results in a real war. War is the ultimate favorable balance of trade in that a country “dumps” bombs and bullets on another country at no cost to the other country with the intended purpose of not receiving any bombs or bullets in return. In fact, if war was accounted as an “export”, which it truly is, the United States would not be running as large of trade deficits in times of war. This is why the US economy is so dependent on war for its proper functioning. A large amount of propaganda in the United States is aimed at creating enemies so that the country can dump large amounts of exports on the enemy. This activity leads to employment and allows for economic growth.

These policies are insane in the truest sense of the word because they are all linked to confusion in regards to the true purpose of an economy. This policy has at its basis a philosophy which is non-congruent with reality. All policy derives from philosophy. Work is a by-product of an economic system, not an ends in and of itself. Because money is created as a debt and prices increase faster than incomes, the result is ever increasing debt. This increase in debt does not mean that we are “living beyond our means”, which in macro-economic terms is a complete fallacy. It is due to a misguided philosophy that is wreaking havoc on our world’s economies. There is a statement in the bible that “if any will not work, neither should he eat” (Thessalonians 3:10). This was certainly true at the time and place it was written, but that does not mean that this is a universal truth that holds for all time and all places. Just as Jesus said, “go sell what thou hast, and give it to the poor” (Matthew 19:21), he did not mean that everyone has to sell all they have and give it to the poor. This statement was true for the intended recipient, who valued his material possessions above all else. It was not meant as a universal truth to applicable to everyone.

Technology is replacing labour in the production. As such, employment is becoming an ever decreasing factor of production. This fact is responsible for an accounting flaw, which in turn makes it impossible to balance all budgets within an economy simultaneously. In a letter to the Social Credit Premier of Alberta, Douglas wrote:

"This seems to be a suitable occasion on which to emphasise the proposition that a Balanced Budget is quite inconsistent with the use of Social Credit (i.e., Real Credit – the ability to deliver goods and services 'as, when and where required') in the modern world, and is simply a statement in accounting figures that the progress of the country is stationary, i.e., that it consumes exactly what it produces, including capital assets. The result of the acceptance of this proposition is that all capital appreciation becomes quite automatically the property of those who create and issue of money [i.e., the banking system] and the necessary unbalancing of the Budget is covered by Debts."

In other words, a policy of attempting to balance all budgets in an economy simultaneously implicitly assumes that technological progress is non-existent. It assumes that the economy consumes exactly what it produces, including its capital assets (factories, machinery, etc..). However, we know that capital assets can last for years, so they are not consumed at the same rate as consumer goods. As a result, all capital appreciation (increases in capital minus depreciation of capital) becomes the property of those who issue money (the banking system) due to the fact that they are the only ones who can monetize the use of that capital. Since the banking system only issues money as a debt, capital appreciation and the monetization of its use results in ever increasing debt. This means that as we advance technologically, we are forced into ever increasing debt. It is technological advances and the displacement of labour in production which causes increasing debt loads, not "living beyond our means".

How do we solve this dilemma?

Douglas demonstrated in his A+B theorem that prices increase faster than incomes as a result of technological progress and the replacement of labour by capital in production. If we give people the necessary purchasing power to buy back all of production through a compensated price mechanism and a national dividend given to all, then debts will not increase over time. Further, the ability for consumers to obtain purchasing power without employment will end the pursuit of a policy of full employment. This will stop the insane practices of war and a favourable balance of trade in order to make the economy function properly. Increasing debt is not a result of “living beyond our means”, but the result of technological progress and the inability to balance all budgets in an economy simultaneously with this parametric shift. The Anti-Christian philosophy of Salvation through work perceives technology as something that enables us to do more work (and as consequence, producing ever increasing goods and services, and falling further and further into debt). The Christian philosophy of Grace enables technology to become a positive factor for progress because as physical labour is replaced by machines, people's purchasing power can be increased without having to do more work or go into every increasing debt. Only by increasing our purchasing power in accordance with capital appreciation, can technological progress become evidence of God’s grace. God’s grace is imperative to our salvation.

"The most dangerous man at the present time, said Major Douglas in answer to another question, was the man who wanted to get everyone back to work, for he perverts means into ends. This is leading straight to the next war - which will provide plenty of work for everyone."(Tragedy of Human Effort)